we from the old year books that some kgb undercover agents became elders in high up positions.. i wonder if this is going on today?
not just in russia but other congregations around the world?.
when you think how long it takes to become an elder and all the talks and maybe judicial committees they were involved with.. anyway i’m just throwing it out there if someone wanted to pay me i am a current elder who is pima about intelligence or chance involved with the origin of the universe.. .
I remember either soviet union or eas tgermany. Explained away that the holy spirit can't be fooled so it was a test. Then the next study would be about God never testing with unrighteous means.
Ambitious wicked people infiltrate every organization and God just watches. Leads me to agnosticism
my grandfather who has been dead for 37 years would not recognise the borganisation today.
he would turn in his grave if he knew the end didn’t come by 2023.. back in the 1970s he really believed in the 75 thing.
he was so disappointed and almost blamed everyone else why the end didn’t come.
An honest look at the roots finds the ideas and dogma are an outgrowth of the American movements: 7th day, Christian science, millerites etc. Find any " truth" and you will find it copied from a church somewhere
what happens when a jehovah’s witness who has been disfellowshipped returns to attending the meetings again?.
mark jones writes:.
if it's the same congregation that they previously attended then, yes, the congregation will remember who they are and so continue to treat them as dead or invisible.. one of the identifying marks a cult is that it uses shame and humiliation to control members, to keep them from leaving and manipulating those who escaped into coming back.. a disfellowshipped person is never allowed to quietly leave with dignity.
A cousin was turned down, then was asked by a bully elder what she thought would change things. She said, get you off the committee. To his credit he stepped aside, and sure enough she promptly got back
elder friend of mine texted me asking what my rc attendance was 2 weeks ago (family and i streamed it since wife is not well).
he told me that his rc in the jersey city assembly hall last weekend was low.
co told them that around 2600 were the total from 16+ congs that were assigned.
Journeyman
I getcthe impression the assignments for things requiring travel are done by densely populated eastern US based fools who have no concept of the rest of the US. I have seen circuits with a mountain pass ( impossible in winter) in the middle. Routine assignment of conventions in " "just " the next state, a mere 600 miles
this comment was made on reddit, perhaps protesting is starting to get the witnesses' attention.. it amazed me how many jehovah's witnesses exiting the convention were reading the protester's signs.
some of the witnesses were taking pictures of the signs.
jws were going by and smiling and giving a thumbs up.
They used to close the gate and not let us leave. If you do much as made eye contact you were pulled aside and admonished
what happens when a jehovah’s witness who has been disfellowshipped returns to attending the meetings again?.
mark jones writes:.
if it's the same congregation that they previously attended then, yes, the congregation will remember who they are and so continue to treat them as dead or invisible.. one of the identifying marks a cult is that it uses shame and humiliation to control members, to keep them from leaving and manipulating those who escaped into coming back.. a disfellowshipped person is never allowed to quietly leave with dignity.
Vidquin
A year minimum--you know, just like the bible specifies
I have heard of CO'S reading the riot act to the few committees that acted on good sense and reinstated anyone in less than a year.
What they should do is have a year minimum on baptism announcements, just to see if it " took".
the watchtower and awake have been listed as the most popular magazines.the figures are astonishing.
i am not sure whether it is based on reality or not.. source: https://tingtopten.com/2020/01/top-10-most-popular-magazines-in-the-world/.
i have seen the link on many social media networks.
When it was printed every month it went to a distributor ( grunt jw) who then posed them in a closet and x then burnt them. Of the ones used, they were given to homes where they were seldom read or left at hospitals, laundries where they were not read.
The only one read is the kool-aid edition, and not by the public
putting this under "friends" because i couldn't figure out where to put it.
it is very often on here and in ex jw videos, ect that people like to undermine some of those who once we would have called friends.
there seems to be a view that window washers, plumbers, cleaners, construction workers are somehow less intelligent than those who may be college educated.
LV. Those people use contract labor brothers. Underpaid, no insurance, then give talks about materialism.
if it’s looking like someone may be disfellowshiped or announced they are no longer a jw and they don’t want to be shunned they just want to fade without being shunned - just say that would make me suicidal .
simple.
in the new shepherding book it says if they say that then don’t go ahead with it.
My bunch would happily red flag( have police take guns) you.
the watchtower—study edition | september 2023. study article 37. rely on jehovah, as samson did.
4 consider an example of samson’s trust in jehovah and of the support that god supplied.
on one occasion, a philistine military force had come to capture samson at lehi, evidently in judah.
How about David and Jonathon standing back to back and fighting?
The part about Samson i do believe is he (and David) was a womanizer.
